I know the DDA Freman 80R is a half brother sister mating back to our DDA Melisa 824, On top side you have DDA Hana 940 back to 368. In the days of most breeders breeding for that perfect number, it has not been easy to breed for function and longevity. Now that many years have passed, it is easy to see that most herds have put way too much emphasis on numbers and not enough on function and longevity.